1027: Tamsen WEbster

“Say What They Can’t Unhear”

Message Designer, English-to-English Translator, ​Idea Strategist.



On this exciting episode of "Thrive Loud with Lou Diamond," we are thrilled to welcome back Tamsen Webster, a renowned strategist, author, and speaker. Join host Lou Diamond as he engages Tamsen in a deep and thought-provoking conversation about transformational change, ethical persuasion, and the keys to sustainable motivation.

Tamsen introduces her new book, "Say What They Can't Unhear," set to launch in October 2024, and shares her innovative "red thread" method for structuring messages to maximize engagement. The discussion delves into the importance of emotional and intellectual buy-in, positive framing, and building stories that resonate with deeply held beliefs.

Lou and Tamsen explore the nuances of the challenger sales method, highlighting why leveraging fear and pain can drive only short-term actions, and the significant shift required to create long-lasting change focused on opportunities and fulfillment.

Listeners will gain insights into making persuasive arguments based on widely accepted principles and learn why the requestor of change should bear the risk, not the recipient. Discover how Tamsen's philosophy of helping people simplify complex ideas into actionable strategies can enhance your leadership and communication skills.

Don't miss this episode filled with actionable advice and inspiring insights designed to help you thrive in both personal and professional realms.

Show Notes:

  • Introduction to Tamsen Webster's new book "Say What They Can't Unhear" (00:01:22)

  • Explanation of the "red thread" method and its application (00:02:55)

  • Importance of focusing on unfulfilled desires rather than pain for motivation (00:09:19)

  • Role of emotional and intellectual buy-in in persuasive storytelling (00:11:27)

  • Ethical considerations in the challenger sales method (00:06:57)

  • Argument for positive outcomes in persuasive communication (00:14:16)

  • Discussion on transformational change and sustainable motivation (00:05:22)

  • Tamsen's pursuit of a doctoral program in adult education and leadership (00:14:16)

  • Use of music for enhancing emotional receptivity (00:17:11)

  • Personal anecdotes and favorite motivational music (00:17:11)

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